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. the indication that we're getting now is that this is a big deal, that this is going to be very large, and that everything is going to be on the table as far as bringing the corporate tax rates down, closing tax loopholes, but also cuts in entitlement programs, medicare, medicaid, possibly talking about social security and changing the way it works in the long term. these are big items that obviously could not get done legislatively before the august 2nd deadline. if there was some agreement reached between the leaders to raise the debt ceiling and agree to the framework by which they are going to tackle these big ticket items, that would be a significant thing. and it seemed like both parties were so far apart it will be interesting to see through the weekend if there can be some negotiated deal on a big framework. martha: it's interesting, bret because we've heard a little bit of what has come out of the preliminary discussions that vice president biden was part of. it seemed as though in those discussions they would talk big dollar figures although they wouldn't talk about specific
of the united states of america. and the craziest part -- >> the u.n. wants to spend a big chunk of that money on things that have nothing to do with climate change in third world countries. stuart varney is here to weigh in on this. so where does this come from? where does the money come from and where would they like to see it go? >> where do you want to start on this one? this shows you how totally out of wack the global warming community is with american public opinion. what the u.n. says is this -- we need $1.9 trillion each and every year for 40 years in order to solve the climate problem worldwide and to reduce poverty and hunger worldwide. so they're bringing in poverty and hunger along with climate change. >> it's not all green. it's poverty, hunger and everything else. >> but you cannot eradicate poverty and hunger without going green because if you don't go green, you increase poverty and hunger. you got it? >> so where is this money expected to come from and how much is coming from the united states? >> ok, we contribute 22% of the united nations budget so theoretically, if this
in the lower righthand corner, you choose, what do you want to see? this very big baby, a newborn giraffe? the most efficient government building in america? that's choice number two. and number three, los angeles guy who finds a way to put hundreds of gallons of gas in his tank, but well, he could go to jail for what he did. we'll tell you about it, if it's the one you pick. your must-see moment of the day. you vote, foxnews.com, happening now, it's your other news source. julie: a fox news alert for you and a power plant implosion that we are awaiting in frisco, texas, this power plant has served texas for 50 years and it will come crumbling down just minutes from now, it is the retired colon power plant in frisco. as soon as that happens, we'll bring you that amazing picture. we never get sick of implosions. jon: what goes up must come down. julie: there you go, live tv for you! jon: right now a stunning turnaround in the sexual assault case against dominic strauss-kahn, prosecutors agreeing to free the former chief of the international monetary fund on his own reconnaissance, that mea
. no we won't. we have money to pay it, pay it take that issue off the take. here's the big issue, the president doesn't want to have to be confronted with priorities in spending. because he has a lot of chutzpah. he spent a trillion on stimulus, it failed. he spent a trillion and a half every year on deficits, they are his. also obamacare trillions of dollars this is his spending. he's gotta own it and deal with it. >> greta: i think the president genuinely wants to make sure people don't get hurt. >> we all do. we all do. >> greta: i don't think he's necessarily playing politics some would say he worries if we take some money out of this program it is going to hurt somebody, they all have costs every time we take has costs. >> my point was, this president has added trillions of dollars. we wouldn't be in this crisis right now if he wouldn't have spent that trillion on stimulus, trillion and a half more than he should have on the budget and trillions more on obamacare. but for those trillions in spending, we wouldn't be in this mess. we would still be in a bad spot, nowhere near
a lot. he want as big deal. will he and the president find a compromise? guess who is back? nancy pelosi, your favorite friend, the foam house speaker is back at the table and is in open the debt talks and wants to point the fingers at ... guess who? >> day one of 85 of the republican majority in the congress and we have not seen one jobs bill come to the floor. >>dave: day 185. we expect the republican congress to create jobs in less than a year yet the democrats had four years in control of congress and did what for jobs? >> and the day of fast tush around in the media and all at, quick response from romney about her comments. listen to this. uncertainty is probably the one thing, a heck of a problem. is my company going to be here? it is tough. things have to change. have to change. >>dave: that ad in response to comments early this week, from the senior advisor to president obama who said people will not vote based on the unemployment rate and jobs numbers but based on their situation. well, their situation is the unemployment rate. it is the jobs numbers. that is their reality. so,
the moments. americans are outraged you have to big chunk of americans that still believe that she was guilty in this case and even though she was proven not guilty, many say that doesn't mean she was innocent. and protesters were out there, outside of the jail, waiting for casey to leave just outraged take a listen to what some people were saying. >> we're just out here, we don't care if it's raining, where the thunder is, we're out here. >> it's an important thing to boycott casey, that she gets no money, protest that this kill ser getting out. that she had such a jury trial that was as much a joke. six-year-old would have made a more conscientious decision. >> sheet's definitely guilty. >> and dave mentioned the facebook, there's the i hate casey anthony facebook page. 45,000 now. >> dave: it's up now 48,755 and i would imagine that list will continue to grow throughout the days and weeks ahead. >> clayton: another one, an f-casey anthony page. more than 775,000 individuals on that. so they were choosing between the two facebook pages the i hate casey anthony page and another one. >> ainsl
this economy and yeah, there's a big issue coming up with regards to the debt ceiling. the president ought to be in washington meeting with republicans, meeting with democrats, he shouldn't leave that town until he has an understanding of what it's going to take to get this economy going again and deal with the fiscal crisis that the country faces. but he's here raising money for a campaign. doesn't even have a primary opponent. >> the president was also in pennsylvania, the white house, though, fires back at that particular metal works plant, the allentown metal works that had been struggling for years when the president visited in 2009. president obama saying while i'm working, there will be candidates parading around the country and doing what they do can which is trying to attack. he told supporters in other parts of pennsylvania while mitt romney was there in pennsylvania. >> mitt romney did not mention his rivals. he's clearly taken the stance that i'm the frontrunner, i'm not going to mention tim pawlenty or michelle bachmann. why's he in pennsylvania? not an early primary state, k
the economy still in big trouble. look at this. a slowdown in hire anything june pushing the unemployment rate now to 9.2%. only 18,000 net new jobs were added to the work force last month. at least 250,000 jobs are needed per month to drive the unemployment rate down significantly. and get this, since president obama took office we've seen the economy lose two and a half million jobs. president obama assuring americans there is a reason the numbers are so disappointing. listen to this. >> the sooner that the markets know that the debt limit ceiling will have been raised and that we have a serious plan to deal with our debt and deficit, the sooner that we give our businesses the certainty that they will need in order to make additional investments to grow and hire, and we'll provide more confidence to the rest of the world as well so that they are committed to investing in america. >> molly henneberg live for us at the white house with more on the president's reaction. molly? >> hi, gretchen. clearly not the type of monthly jobs report any president wants to see. unemployment up for the third
all across the country, and they have been hit with a big tax, many forced to close their doors and that is having far-reaching affects. we are going to explore that live with that story. patti ann: a new add campaign claims that milk can cure pms. some people not happy about who the ad is targeting. live with details on that. johnston harris is live at our.com wall. she has three hot videos. you get to choose which one. >> reporter: just above the stories you'll find that pms story about the milk. you have to check that out. after you vote in that poll then you have to decide which story you want to see. the choices for today, i love it when the viewers get a chance to say what they want, big, fuel tpheurbgt it's late but it's finally here and it goes a really long way without having to refuel and it holds a whole lot of people, do you want to see that, or do you want to see a suspect being walked down a hallway, this is in washington state, what happens as people take justice into their own hands, it's pretty unbelievable. remember there are cameras everywhere. and a two-heade
it into the ground or how he moved it. there was no tape on it. the big issue was there was a total failure to find any forensic evidence whatsoever on the tape. more importantly f you remember the only --, if you remember, the own partial profile of dna that was detected absolutely excluded casey. and also excluded caylee from something contact with that tape. that was a mystery. it has not and never will be solved, i suppose. >> greta: i talked to the prosecutor and i asked him, she disappeared or died in june there was a call in august by the meter reader. the remains were found in december. i asked him if the remains had been found in august when the first call was made whether there would have been more forensic clouds which would have indicated cause of death. he -- he said even that was too late do you agree or not? >> i don't agree. possible, possible, possible. that's the case we had. the fact of the matter is, the child was alive june 16th. and was seen with the grandfather on the videotape. if the sheriff's department had done their job, i've always wondered why they couldn't do the slig
for stories, that is right. look, many people say that goldman sachs is a big supporter of the obama administration, a big supporter of democrats generally. this is an unfavorable report for the administration so kind of burr right on a friday afternoon. alisyn: interesting. well we're glad that you've brought it to light for us. stu varney thanks so much. another fox news alert for you right now, because we are just getting word that the president is already threatening to veto a bill that will be hitting the house floor tomorrow. the tea party-backed cut, cap and balance plan would provide the president a 2.4 trillion increase on the debt limit, and would also include a constitutional amendment requiring a balanced federal budget. congressman dan hrupb gree l u.n joins me to talk about this live. hello, long man. >> hello. >> we have to see whether he will really veto it. the president has said a lot of things that haven't come true. this is the most leaderless president i've seen in my lifetime. here we have a situation in which we should be coming together, and yet the president
that the defense attorney brought out. and she focused in and brought the real big picture. and the real big picture is, what does the totality of the evidence show? it shows a girl that did not like her life. had two options. one option was to be a mom. or go back to her single life. she chose to sacrifice her baby. i think the jury will see the arguments of baez and what he is looking for is not acquittal but maybe one or two on the jury to decide with them so he can have a hang or hold out and possibly a hung jury. >>greg: the legal panel will be with us through the hour. plus, live updates from the courthouse in orlando and more on the closing arguments from both the prosecution and the defense. thanks to the venture card from capital one, we get double miles on every purchase, so me and my lads earned arip to san francisco twice as fast we get double miles every time we use our card... i'll take these two... ...no matter what we're buying. ...and all of those. and since double miles add up fast, we can bring the whole gang! it's hard to beat double miles! whoa dude. [ male announcer ]et
she has in her possession at all times. her safety is a big concern of this jail. put the camera there, you can see just how secure this facility is. 74 people facing murder charges in this jail alone. these jails are usually built with more facilities for men and women because more machine are in jail than women. there's a men's side and a women's sigh. not luxurious by -- any means. lights out 10, 11:00 at night. it doesn't mean lights out. lights out means lights dimmed. 4:00, 5:00 in the morning the lights come back on. all night long people are watching her and every inmate. this is a short term facility. not designed to be where someone can live a long time. for that reason it is austere. most people incarcerated are anxious to get through the trial procedure and get to a prison should that be their fate. a prison generally is a better place to live, it is a long term facility, not short term. there's a big difference in terms of your cell. in terms of what you can do, interact with other people. this is simply to house, secure, probably she will have to go to court that gets her
amendment rights. >> a big part of it is how well you're doing it. i did a survey and i asked people who are voters whether they watch fox news or not and i found that 67% of republicans watch fox news several times a week or more. that you knew. but 54% of independents watched it several times a week or more. and 21% of democrats watched it several times a week or more. so there really is an effort here to try to demonize a source of information. and, you know, you guys don't make this stuff up. the stuff you're reporting is stuff that's happening. you know, pugh research did a study during the last campaign that as far as i'm concerned is definitive. they looked at the fox news stuff. not like we're doing now which is opinion. but the news part. the 6:00 and 7:00 news broadcast. and they did the number of seconds that were devoted to positive and negative coverage of each candidate. and the only network that came close to parody between positive and negative on obama and on mccain was fox news. the others were skewed four and five to 1 negative on mccain and positive on obama. >> spea
they are keeping whereever it is she is going a big secret. remember, a jury found her not guilty of murdering her daughter and acquitted her of all charges except lying to authorities. the judge sentenced her to a maximum of three years but it was decided she should be released today. that verdict causing outrage across the country. you can see come of that outrage in the people that were standing around the jail as she was released, holding up signs and shouting. she has received several death threats and out of concern for her safety the exact time of her release was withheld from authorities until they were able to figure out a safe way to get her to this unknown location. of course, we will have updates on the release of casey anthony throughout the morning and the day right here on fox news. we now return to an "on the record" special with greta van susteren already in progress. r to be here. >> you are number 11 right? >> number 11, i was the foreperson. >> greta: you have asked us not to use your name. >> yes i appreciate that. >> greta: after you her the opening statement. prosecution, be
in a very big and vital state of new york. >> most importantly, one, the white house says it's not true and secondly, biden himself, he's been the target of getting off a ticket since january of 2009. when hillary clinton was going to take it over and that would be the smart thing to do politically. as much as people might have strong feelings about vice president biden, i think that for president obama, he's been a good vice president. he marches his soldiers on. he does the bidding. and he -- i think there's no reason for it to change but also this, while i respect the reporter and i'm sure he's got good sources, i just don't see what changing courses mid stream and getting the governor from new york gets you >> you can tell how much the white house doesn't want to talk about something when they dump it out on a friday. according to the economic council of advisors, they've come out with their seventh quarterly report and what they said is the stimulus, remember, it was going to save us from big -- >> save or create three million jobs. >> it was going to do that. it didn't do that. o
-- gretchen: you're saying it was good news that eric holder decided to drop the other charges. the big argument from the right was when you decide to criminal until lee prosecute your agents that work for the cia it pretty much handcuffs their ability to do their job. >> if they acted within the advice of the office of legal counsel they've got a great defense there and i think that the pragmatic concerns won out as i said. moving forward with the two cases that we have, we have clear evidence of detainee abuse where the detainee in afghanistan was khaeupbdz to a a concrete die and basically died from exposure. we have one detainee who died in prison in iraq who may have been beaten to death. it's unclear. the folks that were involved in the inch tier tkpwaeugs and the treatment, they'll have a fair trial, a presumption of innocence, so, you know, the system is going to work, i think. gretchen: it's interesting because some of those enhanced terror tactics they haven't been in practice since 2007 is my understanding when president bush took those particular controversial techniques, i
, the big question is whether or not his defense attorneys will actually ask for this case and the charges to be dropped, and what the judge will say about that, or, if there's some other reason for them to meet. you know what, what we're learning is there are details that have come out about the accuser in this case, and her past, that even had the prosecution now asking questions about this woman. questions that this trial could hinge on, because she is their witness. the only way that they can really press sexual assault charges against dominic strauss-kahn is with her testimony, convincingly, so it has been said, by prosecutors up until now. will defense attorneys for dominic strauss-kahn then ask this judge to dismiss the charges based on the fact that the prosecution may or may not have enough evidence to go forward. we're watching this, that meeting is coming up, those manhattan prosecutors and defense lawyers, meeting in an office. as soon as we know what -- what has happened, we'll bring it to tower office. this is big news, this man lost his job behind the sexual assault charges
of whether or not he wants a big payday. he's the only person he's got to be between the hoards of people who would like to hurt her or kill her as well as the hoards of media that would like to interview her. >> what do you think? >> you have to chalk another victory to jose bias. every network wants to know where she is. nobody knows where she is and they did it they ducked the media. she could be in five places philadelphia, new york, ohio and nobody knows where she is. >> you think it's casey saying i don't want no part of george and casey or is it baes running the show? >> ultimately what's going to happen she is going to get paid. this is about a big payday. we don't know where she is but for the right amount of money we are going to find out. he has to keep her away from the masses they will produce her at the appropriate time and the money will reign. >> i was going to say or joey if baes really cares about her he shavers her head puts a blonde wig on her has to wear over sized clothes and puts her in montana, iowa, idaho. >> but then she can't make money off it if we don't know -- >>
big disappointment for the prosecution. any regrets? meet the prosecutor you saw working tirelessly on the casey anthony murder trial. jeff ashton went on the record about the challenges he faced in his final case as a florida state prosecutor. jeff, thank you for joining us. >> my pleasure. >> greta: i've won and also cases. it is tough to lose a case. even when you should, it? >> it is difficult to put that much time and energy into something, it is tough. >> greta: if the remains had been found in august, did any of your experts say they would have been any more powerful or more potent position to give you an opinion as to the cause of death? >> most of the experts have told us that in all likelihood, pardon me, by the beginning of july, the body was completely skeletonized. there might have been some difference in the evidence. essentially her body was in the form we saw it in december all the way back in late july, august. so it would have still been a skeleton at that point. >> greta: before judge and cindy took the stand and they may be perceived -- before george and cindy to
in the trunk is no big deal. i don't care if it is one hair or a million hairs. >> greta: i disagree with you on the speculation. i think asking the jury to speculate on the father molesting casey, there was no evidence there. what was different about the pet, is that you can draw a reasonable for instance. the rules of evidence is draw a reasonable infer friends if the presenting. the casey molesting thing was -- there was nothing to support that. that was asking for speculation that was different. >> not only speculation but he says they. nothing introduced into evidence except for baez's opening statement about casey having help getting rid of caylee's body. this juror, if he is indicative of the of that decided this case, they are intertwining evidence and experts that come up and say this fbi expert doesn't know what he's talking about. although i don't have as much experience. he doesn't know what he's talking about many they pick and choose who they like or what evidence cancels out the other. that's ridiculous! this alternate said he doesn't believe that anybody produced any evidence
at 9:00 a.m. time served is and fluff and set her free. it will be a big moment thursday morning at 9:00 a.m. when we have the sentencing hearing. right now, casey anthony stays in custody of the orange county sheriff department and at some time today she will be driven in her unmarked sheriff department van back to orange county jail and her parents, their attorney, indicated to me george and cindy an don't have no intention whatever of talking to the cameras post verdict. that is of course before they knew the verdict. but, it certainly did appear that they perhaps thought their daughter was somehow involved at some degree in the death of the 2-year-old sky he marie anthony whose body was found like we have said for six straight weeks in a bag in a swampy partly flooded wooded area decomposed. somebody put her there. and all of the evidence traced it back to the an don't home. at this point, nobody is paying for the death of caylee marie anthony. >> absolutely stunning verdict. in some circles you could say appalling. phil keating, thank you. and now, with former prosecutor and fox
in the big courtroom on the 23rd floor of the orange county courthouse behind me. as both the prosecution and defense in the casey anthony capital murder death penalty trial made their last emotional appeals to the jury. by day's end the jurors had seen everything. from the prosecution's powerful presentation of the largely circumstantial case of the accused child killer is the defense equivalent of where is the beef? where is the evidence to prove beyond and to the exclusion of all reasonable doubt that caseyen thon knee indeed suffocated her precious caylee so mom would be free to party. there were fireworks, there was finger pointing and there were hard called facts. we begin our 2 hour report from jeff ashton's closing remarks. >> thank you for t time you have given us in this case. we have taken a-away from your families and lives for the last six week all of us appreciate the sacrifice you have made. i am happy to say we came in on the low end of our estimate. we said 6-8 and we came in on 6. our job here is virtually done and your work is about to start. >> from the beginning the p
of a big one. some people served on a lot of juries but never for six weeks. and with basically no freedoms. i think it was a pretty unique situation. >> greta: how were you treated? many people have served as jurors but not sequestered? >> they treated us well. orange county sheriff's office they were a bunch of wonderful people who tried very hard. there's a delicate balance between giving us some freedoms and also preserving the integrity of the jury. they don't want us to be exposed to anything that might sway us. at the same time they don't want to treat us like prisoners. they did a good job balancing the two. they did everything they could for us. >> greta: during this period of time, were you able to contact friends or family or co-workers or were you totally isolated? >> we could use our cell phones and speak to people in a community area where there was always a deputy earshot away we could, we logged all our calls and someone was always listening. >> greta: i have an enormous amount of respect for anyone who serves on a jury. there has been some disagreement or criticism of the j
big and it just out of control. he just said that i really believe that it was an accident and it just went wrong and she tried to cover it up. casey, no verbal response. did he said to you that casey had told him that this was an accident or this was something that you just believed? he didn't say. he didn't say that. he said like he knew it was a -- [ inaudible ] i don't remember him saying like casey said it. he just said it was an accident that wrong. >> george made it clear to you that he did not have any firsthand knowledge of what happened to his granddaughter, that was the context of what he said, want it? >> the statement speaks for itself. >> overruled. >> correct. >> greta: george anthony denies the two were intimate and denies confiding in her. joining us the anthonies' attorney mark lippman. is it your client's view that the witness just on the stand, that is mistaken or is she lying about this conversation? >> she is lying completely miss van susteren. the conversation never took place. my client never had any intimate relation with her this woman has made many misreprese
your common sense and look at the big picture and the defense attorney comes up and takes it apart piece by piece. the defense attorney wants to break it up and say let's not look at the big picture. let's look at the specific piece of evidence and problems with that evidence. a lot of the evidence in this case was complete junk science, in my opinion, and in many other commentators' opinions in this case. >> even the banding of the hair. >> absolutely the banding of the hair. >> the air samples, can of air. >> when you put it all together, though, david, if you jump in, you have a very strong circumstantial case, many would say. what's your position on that? because wasn't jose baez's now closing argument in a sense taken down a notch that he can't argue what he argued in his opening argument? >> absolutely. not just taken down a notch but, excuse me, completely gutted. i mean, he promised things to this jury that went completely unfulfilled. when you too that like mark geragos did in the peterson case, the jury is left with a gaping hole. to create reasonable doubt, he'll have
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, is a clear indication that the body was trying to be hidden. those are even being put in a bag is a very big rid flag for homicide. never seen in an accidental -- death of a child. the fact there's duct tape anywhere attached to that child's face, is to me, indication of a homicide. >> the prosecution tried for a big finish. calling the tattoo artist who had an appointment with casey on july 2nd. just two weeks after caylee died. >> when ms. anthony came to your shop how was she acting? >> normal. >> what does that moon? >> didn't seem upset about anything. >> on casey's request he tattooed her with bella vida, beautiful life. >> at this point the state of florida would rest. >> our legal panel is back with us. all right guys, we talked about cindy anthony and the fact that she apparently is trying to take responsibility for premeditation by saying that she searched for chlorophyll oh i mean chloroform. the question is, does it matter in this case? mark, legally does it matter if they can get to -- if they can get to murder one just in child abuse alone? >> it doesn't necessarily matter. obv
this when i shook his hand friday in the big courtroom on the 23rd floor of the orange county courthouse in florida, "this is the deepest heart ache you could imagine. i lost one and now i could lose another ". whose side is george really on? and facing the death penalty, why didn't his daughter the accused casey anthony take the witness stand in her own defense? >> this family must keep its secrets quiet. >> geraldo: in a desperate attempt to explain casey's hideous behavior in the month following caylee anthony's death, the defense attorney jose baez presented an abuse excuse. >> it gee been a when she was 8 years old. >> geraldo: george anthony flatly denied the ai allegatio. >> you would never admit to molesting your child, would you, sir? >> i never would do anything like that to my daughter. >> you would never admit to it, would you, sir? >> sir, i would never do anything to harm my daughter in that way. >> geraldo: the defense was left with the challenge of putting evidence on the record to support the allegation of abuse. >> i think it left a huge hole. unless you put casey on th
are even it being put in a bag is a very big red flag for homicide. never seen an accidental death of a child. and the fact that there is duct tape anywhere attached to that child's face is, to me, indications of a homicide. >> the prosecution tried for a big finish, calling the tattoo artist who had an appointment with casey on july 2, just two weeks after caylee died. >> when ms. anthony first came to your shop, how would you describe her demeanor? >> normal. >> what does that mean? >> didn't seem upset about anything. >> on casey's request, he tattooed her with bella vita, beautiful life. >> your honor, at this point, the state of florida would rest. >> our legal panel is back with us. all right, guys. we talked about cindy anthony and the fact that she apparently is trying to take responsibility for premeditation by saying that she searched for chlorophyll -- oh, i mean, chloroform. and the question is: does it matter in this case? mark, legally, does it matter if they can get -- if they can get to murder 1, just from child abuse alone? >> it doesn't necessarily matter. obviou
this from the beginning. it's an intriguing day. >> this is, it's a big day. >> dave: let's start with the defense. what can they do? is there anything they can stress that would perhaps save her life? is there any chance of a not guilty verdict in your opinion? >> i don't think there's any chance of a not guilty. i think the best they can do is to save her life. the defense made outrageous claims in opening, but went the other way with their defense and helped the prosecution and sputtered to the close and the rebuttal is the final knockout punch. >> clayton: is there enough for the death penalty? that seems to be the question. because premeditation is ultimately the linchpin and maybe that's taken off the table. >> i don't think so. although it isn't a sure fire went for the first degree. what happened here, i think, what you're going to have is that if jeff ashton, if he puts this together in the right way for the jury and really kind of shows them what they can disregard and why, i think they still have a great chance because the biggest thing for the first degree murder conve
. he had no idea. because heasn't involved just as he told you. counsel showed you the big poster with the pictures of caylee walking into the pool. and said that this hypothesis has not been rebutted. i respectfully disagree. because, ladies and gentlemen, the two people counsel asserts were present when that happened were george anthony and casey anthony. george anthony testified on that witness stand the first day of this trial, it didn't happen. and as this verdict will point out to you, miss anthony also was given the opportunity to adopt that and rejected it twice. that has been refuted by the evidence in this case. counsel also asserted to you that this crime scene was quote-unquote staged. here is the interesting part. he tells you on the one hand that george anthony's connection to the tape -- he stead follow the tape. but then on the other hand he tells you that roy crock is connected to the tape. dr. spitz told you somebody came along later and took the skull and taped it. in opening statement defense counsel told you that person was roy kronk. they both got this rare k
murder trial. thanks for joining us. >> thanks for having me, hi. >> greta: hi. tomorrow night is the big night on lifetime. i know you have been twitting about the casey anthony verdict. you don't like the verdict? >> no. but i want on the jury and i didn't see what they saw so i've just moved on. >> greta: it captivated a lot of people from coast-to-coast, why do you think that is? >> it has every element. everything dysfunctional that you could think of. under one banner. >> greta: rose hand's nuts. it is about your macadamia farm in hawaii. -- roseanne's nuts. it is about your macadamia farm in hawaii. a reality show isv5/Ñ so differt than a sitcom isn't it? >> yeah. it is a lot more relaxed. a little bit more fun. cause you can improve a lot. but they both have funny jokes. so even though it is unscripted it is kind of scripted too the reality show. >> greta: i would think it would be harder because it is such an invasion of your privacy. question are -- we are going into your home. >> you are sort of coming in my home. i have a nice home and i want people to see it. i like farming
wondered if i was being hypertechnical about the law? >> no. a big part of the prosecution's case was chloroform. i was easy, in my opinion, to discredit and give it no value and no weight. once you got rid of that -- i'm not saying there wasn't some sort of -- nobody knows what happened to caylee. i don't think chloroform was involved. i think they tried to make a strong case. but the chloroform seemedesque enough to move it aside. once that is gone, you don't have much to work with. >> greta: what do you think was the purpose of the chloroform? >> chloroform, i think maybe they had a feeling there was some sort of, you know, like trying to keep caylee quiet or something to that effect. they found the chloroform searches. so they went with that. they didn't have much to use. there's nothing else they could find maybe. they were trying to substantiate that and go in that direction. it wasn't strong enough to say okay there was chloroform involved. >> greta: there is no doubt about it. this was a huge win for the defense team. the defense opened their case with allegations of sexua
about that. >> there is a big principle behind it. there are many families you couldn't help saying i am sorry. jose baez opened his mouth during the statement. the fact of the matter is caylee never was listening made them furious she was found not guilty. oh my god all of the money all of the time all of the other families that we neglected, you know, the search and the heart and the tears coming from 13 different states. the best resources in the world for this little girl found right behind us was here the whole time we were deceived we were lied to but what i said from the beginning when i talked to craig he could have ended this a long time ago. i owe this to our supporters i owe it to our donors. they donate money keep us going. out of jose baez mouth kaye low was never missing. >> remind us why you started equusearch? >> you know i have been through the same thing with my own daughter when she disappeared. police said she was a run away. the police never knew she was a run away. we didn't get any help and 17 months later guess what? her body ended up 4 bodies found in an oil fiel
open up the back door. there is the proof she could easily get outside, there is the proof she was big enough and strong enough to open the door. you can't get anything better than that. >> judge jeanine: our legal panel is with us now. diana, i'm going right to you. what about the fact that the judge starts today by saying i'm not going to let you get anything in or talk about sexual abuse by george anthony or lee anthony. were you surprised? >> no, in fact, i thought the glass was half full. i was shocked he let them talk about the drowning, honestly, there really wasn't an iota of evidence. if they have that evidence then every family that's not a pool and a child dies you getted to argue drowning. i was supposed the judge gave him that. different the box he sawed himself in and he's not a particularly great organizationed speaker, i thought he made some really good points. i wish shed gun-- i wished they were condensed now, when they quoted "to kill a mockingbird," i was thinking about washington-- >> was it a good idea for jose baez to refer to his on client as a lying no good slu
. if the prosecutor did it would look like sour grapes. they lost the big case they ought to think twice. >> greta: while tell you why i would not. the fact that cindy said that car smelled like death showed this was not a mother trying to protect her child, because she wouldn't have said that and repeated it and tried to soften it. i think cindy was mistaken, i don't think she was lying. >> she was all over the place. honestly, this was not the piece of evidence that lost the case. why take more from this woman? her life is bad enough. i don't think they are going to do it and i don't think they should. >> greta: bernie, sentencing is thursday, what would you give casey anthony and why? >> everything you can give her. she lied in a homicide investigation. it didn't get any more important. it was her daughter. she should have stood up and said this is what happened. whatever this was. and admitted to the police. throw the book at her, give her everyday you can. >> greta: and you are a defense lawyer. >> absolutely. i'm not her defense lawyer, but i'm a defense lawyer. >> greta: ted? >> i would thr
. there is the proof she could easily get outside, there is the proof she was big enough and strong enough to open the door. you can't get anything better than that. >> judge jeanine: our legal panel is with us now. diana, i'm going right to you. what about the fact that the judge starts today by saying i'm not going to let you get anything in or talk about sexual abuse by george anthony or lee anthony. were you surprised? >> no, in fact, i thought the glass was half full. i was shocked he let them talk about the drowning, honestly, there really wasn't an iota of evidence. if they have that evidence then every family that's not a pool and a child dies you getted to argue drowning. i was supposed the judge gave him that. different the box he sawed himself in and he's not a particularly great organizationed speaker, i thought he made some really good points. i wish shed gun-- i wished they were condensed now, when they quoted "to kill a mockingbird," i was thinking about washington-- >> was it a good idea for jose baez to refer to his on client as a lying no good slut. >> absolutely, i do that on al
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